Obfuscation: the activity of obscuring people's understanding, leaving them baffled or bewildered.
This is 'Appeal to consequences' logical fallacy. Because the consequence is unfavorable, this must not be. A world that dictates what will happen to you causing you not to exist is a bad thing, therefore it can't be true.
Yeh isn't it annoying when people who have no idea tell you what it is you actually believe? I guess because I'm an ego or something that because I believe it you are really that or something.
JUSTIFY YOUR STATEMENTS. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE.
It doesn't matter which path you take, or which path looks more right or real or true or preferable or proven. It's when you pit two paths against each other and say that one path is better or righter than the other that you are being egomaniacal.
What you call egomaniacal, I call using judgement to make a decision. On the other hand, it's when you accept that everyone is allowed to be exactly where they are at, believing whatever they currently choose, given that you know that all paths lead to Oneness eventually and that awakening is inevitable, that you put the ego aside.
Why do you assume that everybody will eventually reach this enlightenment of yours, or that all paths lead to it? It's okay to believe whatever you want, you're not wrong for doing so, but you might be temporarily mistaken.
Mistaken by whose opinion? Ha, who's seperating who now! If the world causes your experience and makes you who you are and dictates what happens to you, you do not exist.
What justification do you have for this statement? This one of those things where, there is no logical reason for it, so there is no logical way to argue agaisnt it. Look I can do it too. If you allow yourself to drink chocolate milk, and put sugar on your Frosties in the morning, YOU DO NOT EXIST!This is 'Appeal to consequences' logical fallacy. Because the consequence is unfavorable, this must not be. A world that dictates what will happen to you causing you not to exist is a bad thing, therefore it can't be true.
If you do not have any say in it whatsoever, which is what you're claiming, then you don't even have an identity of your own,
No he never said that. Life is a mixture of things within and without our control. not even as an ego yet alone as a Oneness or True Self.
Could you percisely define what Oneness and True Self means. Also, just because they sound nice, doesn't make that I want to be them or they should be my goal. So justifiy why they are such things that I should aim towards. All of these attempts to portray yourself as being down to earth or more sane by accepting `reality as it is` or not having an issue with how things are, is really a facade covering up your wish to not exist, which is an egotistical state of being.
I hate it when people tell me what I do or do not wish or want. You don't know, so don't pretend to know. All this obfuscation is just a facade covering up your wish to acheive some kind of enlightenment and to add meaning to what you really view as an otherwise meaningless life. You're not special, neither am I. (And if we all are special, then how does that make us special.)Yeh isn't it annoying when people who have no idea tell you what it is you actually believe? I guess because I'm an ego or something that because I believe it you are really that or something.
You are being human, and being comfortable with being human, which is fine, because at least you're not trying to fight with the world so much, but that doesn't mean you are accepting reality or that you're in touch with it.
So how does being human mean that you are accepting reality. And how would not being human mean you are fighting against the world. Why is all this specific to humanness? Reality is not about images or appearances, it's about what is real.
REALLY???????? Thanks for pointing this out. This adds nothing to your arguement, the same was as chocolate milk means you don't exist as chocolate isn't about images or appearances it's about what's chocolate. Accepting the *appearance* of the world is to accept a false image covering up reality.
Just because it is an image, doesn't mean that it is false. Just because it COULD be false, doesn't mean it is false. Reality is inside of you, it's what you are, not some hunk of matter outside of you going through constant change and fluctuation.
I thought reality was what was real. If reality IS a hunk of matter (among other things) then that's what's real. How can you tell one way or the other? How do you know that your idea of reality being inside of you isn't just a false image?? How can you accept or live in a reality which is constantly undecided?
Because I have teh skillz? This is 'Appeal to consequences' logical fallacy again. You are implying that constantly undecided reality is something bad to accept or live in, therefore it cannot be so. Such a reality may be your *experience*, but that does not mean that your experience is true.
So your experience is better? Your egos are seperating again. I would like to iterate again, that separation is what the ego is about, so any form of it is being ego.
I disagree that seperation is what the ego is all about. If you claim to be separate from a world that has created you, or separate from God, or separate from anyone, you are being ego.
Whoa slow down there. A minute ago you were bashing us for believing that we were part of an ever-changing reality over which we do not have complete control. Now you are accusing us of believing that we are seperate from it. Btw I don't claim that, so I guess I'm not been ego. However I do pit my paths together quite a lot so where does that leave me? It's only through joining and sharing, at the level of the mind not the body, that you can get in touch with reality.
But how can I ever be sure that my experiances of joining and sharing are real? And how does joining and sharing make me in touch with reality? You're just making it up as you go along now.JUSTIFY YOUR STATEMENTS. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE.