agent you just reminded me about that lol as far as I know, a program that converts your source code from one language to another, while hard, does work and it certainly has advantages like here. If someone could just do that, we could put bmx-made apps on the iphone and itouch without worrying about ARM and whatever other problems. Personally, I think blitzmax research would be stupid not to get bmx working on the iphone and itouch... they're already such hot products, and with the SDK, which you can tell from the vid on apple's website is simply amazing, bmx would profit a TON. You may or may not have heard about spore, but it's probably the most anticipated, most advanced, most breakthrough game ever, and they're gonna release it on the iphone and itouch! I dream of being able to program for the i's :D