Stevie G, I respect your work. Now my work is specific. It's like procedural texturing. I build my fonts in the init bootstrap. I could save them and load them from the HDD, but then it's impractical. The reason I'm building my fonts from some bits of values is that I can implement shadow and contour while I'm building the font using alpha values, from options in my system. If the bitmaps are already done, I'd have to have a bitmap for every case and have a way to manage the bitmaps and loading/saving, which would be uber clumsy.