Excuse me Damp, but you cannot prove that the earth isnt flat. Ok so some of the physics you learnt you would have to assume is wrong. For example, light would need to bend away from the flat surface of the earth. (Which you can only prove it doesnt if you take the earth to be round, its one of those self comfirming thoeries). And also that the metric would need to change, which again we only assume it doesnt, cos it seems not to change.
(And dont give me any of that "You will fall of the edge), cos metric changes so that you travel an infanitly smaller, (or larger depending on if we want an infinate plane or not), distance in the same unit time as you get closer to the "Edge". The only way to really really prove that the earth isnt flat is to be at all points of its sruface at the same time which you cannot do. So we accept the round earth model, cos it removes the topalogical parts of space travel equations.
There have been three studies into this "Planet", (I say "Planet", cos its really a brown dwalf), that have published since Jan. Two have said that the water spetra that they were looking for (9.8microns I think), wasnt there, and that it was silica that they were seeing (9.5 I think), and one that said it still might be water.
Obviously the news media jumped at the later of these, (Cos finding water is a big deal), but ... well you know. Thier needs to be another (At least) study, and there are only 2 non-solar system masses (of the 217 odd that we have found), that have a plane of orbit good enough for spectra analysis.
I have no doubt that there is life out there, but this is a faith thing. Finding the first non-solar mass/planet was a big step to showing that is was statisicaly likly, (And dont forget that was only 1992), and if they can now show that these masses have water as part of there makeup then a bigger step in showing that the life would be somthing we could relate to. However it is still just faith that lets people say that life must exist somewhere else.
And stateing blindly that "It must" because.... is what gives the more fundimental creationists the ability to counter it. Both the existance of a God and extra Solar life are at the moment unproven. But only one of which has the chance of proff becomeing available.
End Note. Imagine how funny it would be, if the first Aliens to visit earth, were on a pilgrimage to the Holy land. hahahahahahahahaha
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(And dont give me any of that "You will fall of the edge), cos metric changes so that you travel an infanitly smaller, (or larger depending on if we want an infinate plane or not), distance in the same unit time as you get closer to the "Edge". The only way to really really prove that the earth isnt flat is to be at all points of its sruface at the same time which you cannot do. So we accept the round earth model, cos it removes the topalogical parts of space travel equations.
Geocentrists accept a spherical earth but deny that the sun is the center of the solar system or that the earth moves
Again, its only because the maths are easier if you say that the earth isnt the centre.There have been three studies into this "Planet", (I say "Planet", cos its really a brown dwalf), that have published since Jan. Two have said that the water spetra that they were looking for (9.8microns I think), wasnt there, and that it was silica that they were seeing (9.5 I think), and one that said it still might be water.
Obviously the news media jumped at the later of these, (Cos finding water is a big deal), but ... well you know. Thier needs to be another (At least) study, and there are only 2 non-solar system masses (of the 217 odd that we have found), that have a plane of orbit good enough for spectra analysis.
I have no doubt that there is life out there, but this is a faith thing. Finding the first non-solar mass/planet was a big step to showing that is was statisicaly likly, (And dont forget that was only 1992), and if they can now show that these masses have water as part of there makeup then a bigger step in showing that the life would be somthing we could relate to. However it is still just faith that lets people say that life must exist somewhere else.
And stateing blindly that "It must" because.... is what gives the more fundimental creationists the ability to counter it. Both the existance of a God and extra Solar life are at the moment unproven. But only one of which has the chance of proff becomeing available.
End Note. Imagine how funny it would be, if the first Aliens to visit earth, were on a pilgrimage to the Holy land. hahahahahahahahaha
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in to what universe expanding anyway
It not expanding into anything, its a 3d space bounded in 4d, it just gets bigger (Or everything in it gets smaller including the metric if that make you feel more comfortable)