Why would I? You expressly said you weren't interested in one.
If you had any facts to explain your point of view you would have presented them in the first place, instead your entire argument was 'ODE is awful'. Why would I be interested in anything you had to say regarding ODE after that? It's clear your opinion is baseless.
No, I was agreeing with someone who was taking a great deal of undue abuse ( which is against forum rules, by the way )
I wasn't giving Vorderman any abuse, are you out of your mind? We were having a healthy discussion until he implied the only reason I challenged his view was because of a 'vested-interest in promoting ODE', even then I only described his argument as BS. It's hardly breaking any rules that I'm aware of, I've seen far worse in these forums before without anyone batting an eyelid.
The only point at which I've lowered my tone is when you entered with your 'constructive argument'. Again, stating that what you said was 'bollocks' is hardly breaking any rules. If it was, FlameDuck would have been history long ago. The 'f'king' comment is probably pushing it, but it's still censored. If you think I'm out of order then report me to the mods.
And I'm not your pal.
Heh, pathetic.
Perhaps I'm still not being clear. I don't object to you defending ODE or your wrapper. I object to you breaking forum rules and abusing someone who doesn't deserve it. Disagree with him all you want, but there is simply no cause to abuse Vorderman just because he won't toe your line.
Clear as mud. If you objected to my attitude towards Vorderman you would have said so in your first post, because there's certainly nothing I've said to him since then that you can remotely describe as abuse. Like I said, you're just poking your nose in to stir things up.