we..I do belive its possible to make for a living out of indie games...at same time I find out that major of loss came from greedy publishers..man..75% out of profit your game make...I understand that they put a lot of work and effort but is it really 75% out of something whats done by someone else...huh...on another side, if one screensaver was make 65K us$ within 4 months (I cant remember exactly name of it, but it was link about it, here on forums), I guess any well done indie game can make you happy regarding money...I mean, I will not consider seriously peoples whos producing clone over clones and yelling about how hard is to make to get some money out of games....me personally not living from games, but soon will be out something whats considered as a test drive..so I will let you know guys :))