well that's not quite true, I might add in "professional" to that sentence. but Inca Quest did OK and Indiepath made a couple of games as have others. What worries me is that it's not great for *smooth* action games on all PCs, some yes, others no. However, I keep on testing and posting bugs and people *are* coming up with solutions inc. BRL. So that's positive. I'm really puttin Bmax to the test at the moment.