granted, but when you are using PHP that does the same thing as a central layout in css, most of the point becomes moot.
I hear ya about frames and search engines... but once again, it becomes moot when you use PHP and you just detect a session variable that says (hey, I came from the frames) and you reload if it didn't.
I hear ya about frames and search engines... but once again, it becomes moot when you use PHP and you just detect a session variable that says (hey, I came from the frames) and you reload if it didn't.