should I get photoshop?

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Hmm interesting

IPete2: I just thought the "Elements" things were just expansion packs didn't realise they were standalone. Sounds interesting

Garion: I'm using PSP 4.0 shareware on day 670 of 30 day trial :-) more like day 4000 as I keep installing on every new OS I get.

Turns out I had gimp downloaded but no installed. I'll install it and try it soon. Like I said I really want text effects inc outlines, fills, textures, 3D etc, more than the photo editing stuff.