hiya , guess my posting the code didnt work to well other then posting it like text, didn't use one of those cool windows ffor it but there it is. This version I put back in the scale_factor and alpha_factor thinking that somehow it made the bullet go across the screen but it didnt help either. I am sure I am missing something that is probly real easy for most programmers with some experience. If someone could nudge me in the right direction I would appreciate it. Being a newbie to this is ruff.