I don't know what's up with those apps specifically (btw, I recommend FLE for creating terrain) but in general I think we're in a bit of a holding pattern. At least I am; while I am still using Blitz3D, working on those projects has fallen way down on my list of priorities. Basically waiting for the 3D module for BlitzMax, I am focused on other projects right now (specifically, my soon-due thesis paper.)