heh, don't know. We allmost made a game with ants mods allready. Probably be finished in March :) So far its going very well and our sports game runs at 55fps even on his old P2 350 he's currently using. Been pretty impressed with it so far, particularly when it has a proper B3D loader this time thats about 80% complete. could do with some extra UV'e exported from pipeline though.