Oh yes, great! At last I have solid choice for my physics needs... physics are "mandatory" these days not to mention how cool & fun they are. Having 100% working "HL2 level" physics in your "indie" gamelet is good for sales... I'll order it next week... have to clear my VISA tab first because I've bought so many books and DVDs from abroad this month already. And my missus is having a big birthday party next weekend so I wouldn't be able to play with ODE anyways :) [or at least that would make my wife VERY unhappy].