Doh ... I guess I'm not longer a beginner or something. I just realized reading this thread that I didn't read a single comment in the examples ... I just looked for the syntax of the OO stuff and then went galavanting with my own stuff. Pretty much seems like the exact same thing as Blitz only now types have functions and methods and can extend etc... Makes cleaner code and stuff ... been waiting for it too ... dagnabbit, I've been fiddling around with Blitz for a long time trying to get the most organized method of coding down. I had just gotten to a place where I had a reasonable method to structure all code ... but now that BMax is here it's become even better! Seems like if code is written out right that comments don't need to exist ... unless it's some complex algorithm you're trying to explain.