Ok PsychicParrot, I understand and agree with your point of view, this is why I started this thread in the first place. It certainly isn't intended as a moan at Arkon.
People abandoned ODE when Vorderman developed it, too, mainly because they couldn't be bothered to put the work in to make it work - for example, how many people attempted to fix the rear wheels turning problem and posted up solutions?
I've been around here a while too, unfortunately I don't remember Vorderman's wrapper. However, I feel I've put at least some effort into keeping the current BlitzODE wrapper alive by providing a simple car demo which people can use as a guide for their own projects. The demo also provides a solution to the rear wheel steering, which is a problem that can occur with this wrapper too. These are things we as a community can help each other to fix. But some of the problems with the current wrapper cannot be fixed externally in this way afaik, for example the notorious freezing bug which will kill any functionality BlitzODE has and prevent anyone from using it.
that's if you modify the actual ODE dll though, nothing to do with wrappers or game code.. I'm not quite sure what you're telling the poor guy in this one, since he hasn't altered the ODE code itself he's just written a wrapper.
We don't know if the source has been modified because Arkon hasn't responded when asked about it. Besides I'm not sure that ODE comes in a pre-compiled dll form, otherwise it would be just a case of making a userlib declaration for each function, which I'm pretty sure is not the case. If it is modified and the source is not provided then again BlitzODE cannot be used as this is not allowed under the ODE license.
Arkon must be very busy and that is perfectly understandable, but seemingly totally ignoring the questions and requests from users of the wrappers he produces will only serve to discourage people from using them, in particular his future wrappers. This is ultimately why this thread is here, to bring these feelings to his attention and prevent this from happening.
It's still a WIP and he's still working on it..
You see that's the problem, how do you know he's still working on it? He hasn't posted in any of the ODE threads for a long while now.
I don't want to see BlitzODE abandoned by the community and I doubt Arkon would, so let's hope he notices this thread and puts us all straight, me included.
Oh, and can you fellas stay on topic, this isn't a 'what happened to epicboy?' thread nor is it a 'let's flame Otacon' thread, thanks :)
People abandoned ODE when Vorderman developed it, too, mainly because they couldn't be bothered to put the work in to make it work - for example, how many people attempted to fix the rear wheels turning problem and posted up solutions?
I've been around here a while too, unfortunately I don't remember Vorderman's wrapper. However, I feel I've put at least some effort into keeping the current BlitzODE wrapper alive by providing a simple car demo which people can use as a guide for their own projects. The demo also provides a solution to the rear wheel steering, which is a problem that can occur with this wrapper too. These are things we as a community can help each other to fix. But some of the problems with the current wrapper cannot be fixed externally in this way afaik, for example the notorious freezing bug which will kill any functionality BlitzODE has and prevent anyone from using it.
that's if you modify the actual ODE dll though, nothing to do with wrappers or game code.. I'm not quite sure what you're telling the poor guy in this one, since he hasn't altered the ODE code itself he's just written a wrapper.
We don't know if the source has been modified because Arkon hasn't responded when asked about it. Besides I'm not sure that ODE comes in a pre-compiled dll form, otherwise it would be just a case of making a userlib declaration for each function, which I'm pretty sure is not the case. If it is modified and the source is not provided then again BlitzODE cannot be used as this is not allowed under the ODE license.
Arkon must be very busy and that is perfectly understandable, but seemingly totally ignoring the questions and requests from users of the wrappers he produces will only serve to discourage people from using them, in particular his future wrappers. This is ultimately why this thread is here, to bring these feelings to his attention and prevent this from happening.
It's still a WIP and he's still working on it..
You see that's the problem, how do you know he's still working on it? He hasn't posted in any of the ODE threads for a long while now.
I don't want to see BlitzODE abandoned by the community and I doubt Arkon would, so let's hope he notices this thread and puts us all straight, me included.
Oh, and can you fellas stay on topic, this isn't a 'what happened to epicboy?' thread nor is it a 'let's flame Otacon' thread, thanks :)