@ mikey & guys thanks for the tips. At this moment i know the systax very well and programming would not pose sutch a problem. It's more the eye candy that im concerned with. Im working on a lil 2d rpg along the lines of alone in the dark. It's gonna be pretty phat but it's be 2d not 3d. My first actual attempt @ 2d so. I realy need any help i can get. I also will try using photoshop since i have no problem with that....And id have to purchase everything else....